lol, you really are joking right?

Back in the day the more experienced pvp warriors used to laugh if a mage tried to poly in a 1v1. It's common knowledge that against a decently trained and outfitted warrior a polyed daemon is actually at a severe disadvantage and will literally get chopped down to size.

The key is to keep the pressure on, and not take too much damage yourself. Use a 2h weapon for more DPS, or just wear better armour next time and use a tough heater with GM parrying.

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"Blessed are the noobs, for they shall inherit Obsidian" - Thassius

thass no i am not jokeing, umm i know you haven't caught up with the pvp scene, but theres a difference between your time pvp mages and warriors VRS ours, and theres a new class around, human pvm mages which put pvp poly mages to shame, no one polys to pvp
also reactive was a bit easier to get around back in your age
catch up with pvp b4 you dog others thass
because you never dueled a pvm mage, like i said, theres not 1 thing a warrior can do better than a pvm mage when he's polied, not one,
even the defense of pvm mages are hella better then warriors, there dex is about the same+ they can flame strike and heal using magery,
unless you were dueling pvm mages with gm parry that hit you for atleast -30 each time, and rarely miss, AND swing faster than you,with 300+ str and over powered reactive, you should SHUSH, oh wait you weren't, so shush
times changed thass man unless your active in pvp and caught up, don't speak about it, I could understand if your duck, atleast he gets a players view of things in the pvp world when he takes short breaks.

but your sir, nein

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everything what u just said could be true, u could talk and talk about the do's and dont's in pvping but there is one more thing:

such warriors like mannanan or chris logan can hold a polyed mage as long as they want to.

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chips wtf man a pvm mage cant heal as fast as a warrior. they get a huge healing delay from magery.

reactive hasnt changed has it? they totally disabled it one time then added it back.

so how is it unfair to pvp with a character he made lol. its not a "pvm mage" its his character and he can do whatever he wants with it, if you gonna cry then go make your own "pvm mage" and pwn him back.

youre just gonna have to get some skills besides healing nonstop when you're on your warriors.

they have great offense its true but if you stop and think for a sec poly mages have other weaknesses besides dispel.

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PLAYER VERSUS PLAYER = 2 PPL THAT KILL EACH OTHER...

NOW IF PALAMETA POLIED HE'S SMART

JIMMY SUCKZ

THAT'S IT..

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Hmm apparently things have changed since 'my day'?

Reactive armour has certainly not got harder, we always used to complain about it

All that is changed is that some of the new breed warriors cry because they don't have the skills to beat a polyed mage, rather than winning. It's indicative of warrior pvp standards slipping, not that I've lost touch with how polyed mages are built.

As Drizzt so rightly pointed out people are able to build their characters as they see fit. Rather than complain about it, just get better.
I've had hundreds of duels with mages of all builds.

And I can name two things that a warrior can do better than a polyed pvm mage:

- resistance to damage with strong armour and GM parrying
- healing over an extended period of time (eg 1k bandies)

Now, the most important thing to remember is that mages cannot meditate with their hat when in Daemon poly. Therefore, beating a polyed mage is simply a war of attrition. You need to be able to survive through timing of your heals and poison etc long enough until either the mage runs out of mana or even better reactive runs out and ultimately the mage eventually has their poly wear off and they are vulnerable.

What happens is you need to create sufficient DPS so that the mage consumes their mana reserves (without being able to meditate) on healing spells / poison at a rate that is higher than they can replenish with gr mana pots. The best way to create high DPS vs reactive armour is to use a battleaxe (quick shield up/down to try and parry spells). power or greater longsword, or if you are fortunate enough to use macing a power or vanq hammerpick. If you can afford one with lightning damage even better. Naturally the one handed weapons will let you use a tough heater shield which combined wtih GM parrying will greatly reduce the damage from the daemon.

Once the mage reaches low mana they are in a far less offensive position. Once they do not have enough mana to outheal your rate of attack, they will lose. Using poison pots to fizz their healing spells will also hasten the wastage of mana.

Staying in the ring long enough to dwindle a mages mana supplies is one of the first prerequisites of pvping as a warrior. It is similar in practise with surviving the initial onslaught 'mana dump' of a mage.

If you learn to play the long game, you can beat any mage. If they cannot meditate, and they can't outheal you with the mana from potions alone, and especially if you fizzle the healing spells they do manage, they cannot possibly win. Remember that as Drizzt mentioned the magery skill gives a huge delay to the bandage usage, which reduces this as a factor.

Good luck

GM Thassius

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"Blessed are the noobs, for they shall inherit Obsidian" - Thassius

yes they can, because they can use magery, along with bandies, you know bandies aren't the only method of healing
and i have no warrior so wtf you talking about skill? and how am i crying? wtf? drizz needs a old man diaper change

and thass, things have changed since ''''your day'''' poison changed, don't say the standards of warriors decreased, because the only way a warrior is good is with some luck and old skills
warriors have changed because there not vamp, now tell jimmy to go make a vamp?
lmao
if you noticed the new warriors aren't complete, and the warriors that you remeber had gm skills and such the general skill % has went down indeed
but no one uses warriors but noobs, because even the best warriors can get beat by a mage (azimuth got beat)
no one wants to play a inferior class, get real, and i would have a pvm mage oveor a warrior any day
unless the warrior is vamp, lmao

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so your saying the only people who can carry 1k bandies is warriors? pvm mages can carry mroe than warriors,
and i would take reactive+ gm parry sheild+ protection over wearing some high end armor out of town any day.

ok let me put to rest your theorie about that being better
''healing over an extended period of time (eg 1k bandies)''
first to start, there is no battle that will last 1k bandies, unless you ah ve 2-3 hours on your hands JUST to fight out of town, and in that period of time no one stumbled upon you or someone didn't call a friend. err all i have to say to that is, get real

''resistance to damage with good armor''
um whats the point of haveing that resistance if you can't dole out damage without +9 or elemental weps (rare), and using + 9 out of town isn't worth it when there are chances you can fail 7 times in a row lol
and reactive and protection with a sheild can basicly dull any 1 handed wepon making the warriors resistance to damaged nulled for the sheild part anyway
so think again,
also when there demons they can summon using tricks and bears and such, theres basicly no way, specially with jimmys stats

also warriors have no constant rate of damage, good try, but it's simply not true, a pvm can out heal using bandies, because they have gm tactics + reactive and protection + sheild
now give me rph pala's stats and skills, and you take jimmys stats and such, and we can duel? i would be happy to, if i win let me keep palas stats if i lose you can lower subs str to 50.
we will see whos standards are lowered

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king of the run on sentence.

well he shoulda stayied in town and challenge or soever Palameta

If he sucks he should stfu and not complain about his dieing.

That's it...

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haha terk he's not complaining just pointed out how over powered pvm mages are, that's not pvp, i completely agree with him
and beilieve me what he lost there is nothing lmao no reason to really be complaining

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king of the run on sentence.

chips youre reaching man. those new hunting demons do hit hard but every point you've made was squashed.

thass was here when poisoning was changed. in fact, his ability to time pots was one of his strong points.

you keep saying they can heal as fast as warriors and you ignore the facts that they have a giant delay from magery and no hat to meditate with.

you keep telling us this and that about warriors then you say you dont even have one yourself.

i know you are a tank, and being a tank, you should know a battle can last 1k bandies or close to it, cause any tank vs warrior battle will take ages if both have skill.

i wasnt trying to single you out as i said i know youre a tank, but you were here when everyone realized how to exploit the new system (that no one ever bothered to tweak or balance) by spamming high dex on warriors to heal nonstop.

now theyre getting a challenge cause pple have learned to spam high str on demons to counter the healing spammers. thats all i meant.

as for your attitude, young man (lol), you have some good experience on this shard man, try to back up what you say with facts, not just forcing everyone to agree with how you see things and ignoring any facts that might contradict you. thats not arguing your point, thats called being a hammer head.

btw my wealth on obsidian is at best average for a player whos been here a year or two, and i can easily afford to use vanqs most of the time.

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it's a way I argue I don't force you to beilieve anything, that's just what I beilieve, and i do have a warrior, I never use, because he does 0 damage, so i always so i don't because he is never used
my last post was contra counterdicting what thass said, nothing more
and dexxers are easy to beat, who said anything about dexers?
there are not many dexxers around any more, like i said pvp has changed

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The points is hahahaha he hot owned period, no one forced him to fight a pvm, he knew pala was going to poly duh ! he is just crying like a lil punk ass bitch. next time challenge someone you can take.

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Chaos Knight-Warrior(Order Lords)
Black Beard-Fisherman

If someone kills you with 100 purple pots, 10 tamed dragons, 400 gm warriors and mages or just a quick smack to a sensitive area on your body it doesn't matter: They still killed you.

No need for all the hostility really....just go get them back with whatever tactic they used since it appears to work well, just please tone all the hostility down a bit.

i didn't die, what does everyone not get about that, I never died 1 v 1 with a order lord out of town, last order lord I fought in the most retarded easy battle I have ever done, was with ox, and he died, within 2 mins. :X

don't mistake this for hostility, because I have no reason to get mad, lolz, not when it takes 8 of them and 20 mins to kill me and jimmy lmao, on how many chars did they log in? lol! oh and wait, the only person to die there was on there side, why would I get mad? lol

hasn't anyone noticed, how I am? I've been here 2 years and haven't got mad, I just laugh and say F.uck it lol. I'm shocked that I didn't get that accross yet lol

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