I think just about everyone will agree, for a race ability that has a huge cooldown and even takes up an animal slot, its way underpowered. I think it should be about as strong as a black or polar bear. Or if you dont increase its strength then lower the cooldown and make it so it doesnt use a slot, being as its the "avatar of ice" and it really shouldnt take much for an ice elf to control it.

yup.. agreed

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yea, a nice cold polar bear would look better than that crappy turkey! all u can make with it is sandwiches!

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so what you want here is basically thew same as a summoned or shrunk bear with no regs used or work done to attain it? I vote hell no.

My cold turkey rapes a bear.. The older your account is the stronger the cold turkey is. I vote No aswell also. There strong enough. I do vote that its gay whenever my crafter summons a cold turkey it always turns on him with a command.. just cause he has no taming or magery doesnt mean he shouldent be allowed to control that turk.

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I agreed with venoms i hope u low coldown or make it as pbears atk

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You cant have them the same delay as bears. If it was like that, a gm tamer/animal lore could summon a relatively strong turkey as fast as they could hit ther quick key until they hit 10 , then they would have unlimited restock.....no good. Timer is a little long though, its higher than a poly spell which is pretty long.

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I agree that a polar bear str is too much. And silk, my account is 46 months and i JUST tested it vs a polar bear and it got it the bear to about half health before dying.
But, seeing as it IS a free summon i can see why it shouldnt be too powerful. However it shouldnt use an aminal slot. And probably a lower timer, 3600 seconds its pretty ridiculous. I would still like it a little more powerful though.

If nothing else just make it so it doesnt use an animal slot.
I see it as a centurion basically, its almost like a part of the ice elf and accordingly the strength of it depends on the character (account age). Another thing i just thought of is maybe the cold turkey's presence would increase the power of the ice elf? Like when its summoned the ice elf would get +15% health, and the other race powers would get a small increase. If that were the case i high timer would be best for blaance.

or you could just not use a turkey for pvp? If you make it so it doesnt go on your count then that is an extra animal you have fighting for you. The solution is simple if they are too weak to pvp then don't use them for pvp. Anything else would give ice elves an unfair advantage.

My own Ice-Elf crafter has been killed by one of those damn turkeys once or twice. I vote no on having a stronger spawn.

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Turkeys if anything will be getting a nerf.
Certain turkeys are weaker than others, and it's up to the frost elves to discover why and how, for i will provide no hints on the matter. Like all racial skills, the race has to learn about them to fully uncover all effects and workings.