Primal, reds are not supposed to "hang" with other in "marketplaces":P, they're supposed to wander around and look for potential victims.

You have theese forums, icq/aim etc, the ingame chat and the possibility to use a blue char to carry out your shopping needs.

Basically, when one choose to be a murderer one isolates oneself from society, that's supposed to be the price one has to pay.

I personally doubt this suggestion is gonna be doable cause it depends on player respect and maturity. On osi there are theese player run towns acting as marketplaces/trainingrounds. Theese places has rules written and enforced by players. Most(can't say all because I haven't played all shards:P) have a no hostilities rule. From my experience reds respected this cause it provided them with otherwise impossible trading/chat/training/boasting etc etc possibilities.

This really can't be done with much help from staff I think as slapping a runechamber protection on the area would hinder the training(right?), and I don't really think the playerbase is "old" enough yet to do it.

Tho, would be cool.

Edit: No I'm pretty sure they won't if you write comments like the ending of that last post.

hmm a pure warrior with no way to get around kinda blows ass chunks. I suggest finding some way for red people who cant recall to get a way around easier i have no clue what whether its a seperate chamber or what. Once again a few lame asses ruin it for the rest of us.

I think im the only one who was actually praised on the bank message boards for my pking

How do you lose GM Paging privs? If it is for some kind of abuse then your brought it on yourselves. You can always PM Broadband, Jorus, etc. on the forums, or use another character to page a GM with the information.

The use of the Runechamber is a privilege and can be revoked at any time for any player. All the more reason to be a respectable/honorable player (you can still PK and be respectable and honorable). If this affects all PKers, maybe the honorable ones will weed out the ones who brought this punishment upon them.

We are all here to have fun. No one has ever said that being PKed occasionally ruins the fun for anyone. It is those who abuse and exploit the system and privileges that ruin the fun for others. Anyway, I think that this is a fine rule and applaud BB.

i could be wrong BUT pks can enter buccaneers den free of worry of getting killed cant they?

I'm not sure about this either.. but i think i remember reading that buc's den is off limits or something... Also primal... i didn't mean to single you out =p I actually thought you begging for food as a chicken was funny... plus you've let me go on my way once when you realized i was new (coulda just been saving regs, but i thought it was cool =p)

Got a small problem, if a pker kills another pker to claim the bounty he cant go to runestonechamber and do it.

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I can't believe these guys coming across as the victims here. Staff banned Plinkers for all the harassement and stress he caused, not to mention the exploits and cheap tactics he used everyday to pk players.
Now these guys are whinning about loosing the rune chamber, you guys are lucky you don't go the way of the Plinker. You guys are RED you should have no rights.

Hi,

A newb here..been killed a couple of times and yeah getting Pk'ed sucks and getting Pk'ed when you no longer have death immunity would be much much worse. But somehow, I think an outright ban for Pk'ers using the runechamber is a bit extreme isn't it? There are always people around who'll try to beat the system and exploit it..making the world more interesting and keeping people on their toes..It's part of the roleplaying experience too.

Just a suggestion, but not sure if it's feasible with the UO system. It's possible to make the fire portal in the runechamber one use only right? Extinguish it when 1 player has gone through. Then fix the runes such that their activation is invisible (or only visible to the player..for example a text prompt like: "You have activated the Sword rune"). That way bystanders would not be able to spy on the whereabouts of the last person who used the runechamber. Some sort of privacy mechanism?

I hate to say it, but I find myself sympathizing with the reds here. This is too much a blanket punishment for all PKers because of a few bad apples (and I'm not naming anyone specific here, so don't jump down my throat)

To me PKers don't have to even be honorable or anything: they can backstab, lie and whatever. But nobody, red or blue, should be free to misuse or exploit features of the game. For example, I've heard lots of stories of both blue and red players exploiting the house bug to cast spells at people in their homes.

I think having a second rune chamber is a fine idea: I may not be a PKer, but I couldn't imagine getting around Britannia without it.

BB's got the right idea, if the pk'ers exploit the rune chamber for their own pking gains, then they should loose the right to use it. It's probably the easiest fix.

omg ,all i care is about my str fish,i got killed and rezed killed 4 times today,and bountyed my head,now im down to 75 str... when i had 90 before,what happened to me the past few days has really been unfair..
bug exploit..then loots
(by the way im not whining,just sayin)
then i go to wind ,gets stuck,guards attack me,stuck (cant page)
brought all my regs n stuff with me to put in bank ,somone loots and puts my head,i lose str again,got so many to name i wont even bother continuing..

and now the rune chamber,sorry but i disagree with disabling the runechamber,pks cant live without it

When I went through the chamber last night I saw you Primal, and Ox and some other guy there. A couple of guys came in, put in their code, went through the fire.... then you promptly said "lets go pk those guys" at which point you and ox and other guy went through right after them. Now my assumption is you pked them, not only because your a pk, red, and the fact that you stated "lets go pk those guys" then went right after them.


If doing this multiple times reported by several people is not abuse I don't know what is.

Although I do believe there should be another option than complete banning from the chamber. Like a timer for being in there or Reds using a different chamber than Blues or something like that.

Honestly, everyone can live without the Runechamber. It is a privilege. If you cannot access it, then walk.

This sux. Rich is right, BB found a good way to resolve the "chamber abuse" problem. Have a problem with not being able to use the chamber? Dont pk.

Since PK'ing is a great way to earn money - I think that there should be some handicaps. And not allowing them to use the chamber will make it more reality-like, it will make them hunt in just one or two places instead of goin after victims wherever they want. This would create some safe place to hunt monster and not being afraid of gettin PK'ed.