Dynamite wrote:Actuallly the thief is the one who is supposed to become criminal after he steals. So, players can kill him or call guards on him if he is not fast enough to recall or hide.

* You can only steal from innocent players if you are a member of the Thieves Guild.
* To join the Thieves Guild you need to have at least 60 skill in stealing and have at least played 48 hours with that character. Also you cannot have any murdercounts.
* If you are not a member of the Thieves Guild you *can* steal from NPCs, Guildmates, opponents in a Guild War or players that are flagged grey or red to you. You can also steal from members of the Thieves Guild.
* The more armor you are wearing, the harder it is to steal.
* You can be noticed by any player or NPC who is within a 15x15 tile box surrounding the VICTIM. So thats within 7 tiles of the victim, square shaped. You can get caught on the diagonal compass points (NW,SW,SE,NE) at almost 10 tiles. See this picture.
* If you are reported for murder you will be kicked out of the Thieves Guild.
* To see if someone is in the Thieves Guild use the Forensic Evaluation skill on them. The higher your Forensic Evaluation skill, the more chance you have of finding out who's in the Thieves Guild.

_Iori_ wrote:but one is the OFFICIAL thief rules and other r the rules from obsidian, lol

Dynamite wrote:From my experience playing in other shards, this idea about implementing the thief system into the game is fun at the begining, but after a while players get anoyed by it and the complaining will start. I don't think it is worth it, I don't like it myself. But anyways, let's see what others think.

motion wrote:

_Iori_ wrote:but one is the OFFICIAL thief rules and other r the rules from obsidian, lol

I thought obsidian never had stealing? How can there be thief rules in obsidian if the shard never implemented it before?

Dynamite wrote:From my experience playing in other shards, this idea about implementing the thief system into the game is fun at the begining, but after a while players get anoyed by it and the complaining will start. I don't think it is worth it, I don't like it myself. But anyways, let's see what others think.

If the system and thief is balanced, then there isn't a reason to complain, people will complain if everyone is a thief because it's easy to become one, but with the rules i've posted above, it won't be. Again, if people want this shard to be hack n' slash, and kill for stuff then by all means. I would prefer a shard that has many variables, many roles, and cases, not just walking around killing things. The only thing to offer an alternative to that is crafting, but I want something more exciting than crafting and not as dull as killing.

Dynamite wrote:From my experience playing in other shards, this idea about implementing the thief system into the game is fun at the begining, but after a while players get anoyed by it and the complaining will start. I don't think it is worth it, I don't like it myself. But anyways, let's see what others think.

About the looting in town, I agree it should be put back, or at least allow guilds at war to to do so.

Regarding pvpets: Pets should be limited to one when used during a fight. It is not fair for any player to fight 5 maybe less or more grizzle bears during a fight in addition to the opponent's damage.

Drizzt wrote:imo stealing would be cool if done right. but remember, staff have a ton of stuff to worry about as it is, im thinking stealing wont be considered till bob has the other stuff in order. who knows.