anybody know where i can find these? i know minoc and one place in trinsic, but no cyclops kings anywhere. If not, are there other monsters are about as hard as these that drop as good, considering drakes seem to barely drop any weapons.

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Fredisgod(StoneD)

I think their used to be some in Destard, but I might be thinking of the wrong dungeon.

drakes rarely drop bags - and if they do it's nothing better than a might weapon. ettin lords and cyclop kings can be found in oasis lvl2. there used to be an ettin lord spawn near wrong somewhere in the woods - but a "smart" guy lured the lord somewhere and didn't kill him and now he doesn't spawn anymore till he's killed - only the ettins that were guarding him.

They will eventually be in Covetous when I redo it. That will be the "giants" dungeon.

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