I'm sure others will agree with me on it being way overpowered.

not really....
Fencing was the bottom of the shit barrell for years, I think maybe your just used to it being like that.

I gave it up when I went archer, but I tested it for a bit, and unless you have a vanq or power war fork it's similar to other skills. The only difference is the pole arms it offers which allows hits from 2 tiles away from your opponent, as opposed to one....but swords has a hally for that too.

the only way I can honestly see an overpower is if someone is using a strong kryss vrs a mage....their fast hits along with enough damage to fizz will prevent a mage from doing much of anything, but it would have to be a hell of a kryss, and the mage would have to not have on RA.

Well, I was killed early today and I died in less then 10 seconds from a fencing weapon. I've really never been killed in less than 10 seconds from any type of weapon, or from any type of spell.

fencing weps ARE overpowered comparatively to other weps

it seems they do the same damage as maces, and are much faster than there swords and mace counter parts

SPECIALLY when you have a pain/lighting/fire weapon, which makes the element from the weapon hit SOOOO fast
Albert even stopped buying regular magic weps and only buys elemental weps, because he's fencing

it seems if anything maces should have the advantage as they have no "2 tile" weapons but thats my opinion,
but fencing is over powered

if i was less lazy i would have switched over to fencing a while ago lol

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I was thinking about dropping archery since it's useless now and train fencing aswell as keeping swords...Idk though things change to fast to make a big decision like that. My luck once I gmed fencing bob would make it shitty again and I would be f*****.

EDIT: Oh and I died on my warrior btw.

Fencing is just right i think. Its the same as any other skills.. Its just the wepons that you get.. Kyrss hits really quick which makes it weak.. Fencing is shit without lightning or pain.. The only reason you die so quick is cause the pain and lightning hit often. If you where fightning someone that used regular fencing wepons they wouldent stand a chance.

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GMBob wrote: A non-bob gm who shall remain nameless did it!

remember that for many many years fencing sucked ass, so no one trained fencing and people rarely kept fencing weps except for the very best ones....now that fencing is reasonable, there's probably a lot of dam good fencing weps coming out of the woodwork.

albert:: not true zott and venom do fine around the same as swords without any element,,,

there pretty even imo with swords,,
its just lightning pain and fire are way to over powered with it, and lots of people have the damn poison fire and light weps, specially on fensing seeing it was the most unpopular skill B4, lol now things changed around and everyone has the best fensing weps,,, shit i even have some good fensing weps

also kryss and lighter faster weps are pointless cept when they have elements on it your correct, but war forks and such work as the heavier weps and do great in PVp


ALSO
parry says u parried the blow,, but you still recieve damage?
i think thats whats wrong with parry, in a offtopic break away
ya parry doesnt block anything,, mosters and such still damage...

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and ya i didnt see azi's post when i posted this,, but i said the same thing as azi saud xD

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Since I was killed by a pain weapon, pain is overpowered

since im a fencer on this shard i can be wrong. but i believe that fencing is not overpowered. all the weapons i have do 1-X (my highest 1-haner being 27 which is a war fork).....and for the most part i do single digit damage. the kryss and daggers are very fast naturally....but dont do a lot of damage comapred to lets say....a cutlass. on other shards i always used a sword. i think a cutlass does more damage with the same dex and roughly the same attack speed as a kryss (cutlass attack speed is 44, the kryss is 53......and the swing delay is roughly < 1 second difference).

seeing that the faster weapons do the lower base damage 90% of the time which is what i witness when fighting, there is nothing overpowered about that. the speed just makes up for that issue, and a decent geared warrior can take out a fencer with ease. fencing weapons to me are more for disrupting mage casting....i dont think id use many fencing weapons vs any heavy armor.

there are 1-handed swords/axes that do more dps than the 2-handed spear fencers get. if lumberjack bonuses are enabled on this shard those apply to swordsmanship only as well. that gives a hell of an advantage vs a fencer.

maces drain stamina and hurt armor (if this is enabled on this shard, like osi-clones.) time to quit rambling.

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this isn't osi. sorry!

heavy weapons are the only usefull wep, unless you have elemental weps such as fire, in which the table is turned and turned WAYYY to far in a warrior to warrior setting,,

as for a warrior on mage setting... mages had no chance b4, now they will take a fizzling hit + a spell casted at intervals faster then they can cast cure or heal,
meaning basically every spell will fizzle,, well, not basically ,, every spell WILL fizzle, because almost every spell fizzled with slower weps,,,

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Ya fencing is not overpowered. Just because i know how to use it well doesnt mean its overpowered.. Look at any other fencer besides me and see if they do as good as me..

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GMBob wrote: A non-bob gm who shall remain nameless did it!

Fencing isn't overpowered, it's the magic weapons that are. Pain, lightning, fire, etc.

That pain weapon you killed me with killed me in less than 10 seconds and it's not overpowered? I didn't even have time to equip my weapon because I had to heal, but then I ran into a wall and was f***** since I failed.

And there's really no way to "use it well". You just equip a weapon and swing..

i killed you in 10 seconds cause you have low hp.. and you had no shield so pretty much ur Armour was low shadow doesnt give much armour... Also you failed alot of heals thats why you died so quick.. I fought duck yesterday with the same wepone and i didnt even get him half way down. We were perfectly even the whole time.

Also you can use a wepon well by having the right stats and the right pots. which i did have. aka Agility Pots.

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I dont think +dex gives any + damage to fencing weps any more alberto,,,

and having the best weapon shouldnt mean ur the best warrior in your class, which it does in this case,,,
everyone uses agility pots, its not like your special

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