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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:54 pm 
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I paged, staff just didnt want to take the time
and answer them....
If you post with one more insulting comment I will remove you from the forums and deny you the right to have your say. We all have lives outside of a game. 9/10 pages get deleted because someone pages with "Hi staff I need some help..." which is TOTALLY useless.

Either you take your ill informed comments elsewhere or I will take action. I'm done with playing nice.

Judas - if you can't say something nice then just stay out. My patience for this all is running thin. A few years ago I made everyone very aware of which runes were illegal to have. Those who have the runes currently and more than likely well aware of what they've done.

Azimuth - Some players are not being punished. I'm taking this whole thing case by case.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:16 pm 

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I left for a long ass time, what are the illegal places? sides sherwood

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:19 pm 
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I didn't get jailed for anything, but I agree with euro. Sounds pretty retarded to get jailed for something you didn't know about, and having to pay the price for someone elses mess up.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:28 am 

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Judas - if you can't say something nice then just stay out. My patience for this all is running thin. A few years ago I made everyone very aware of which runes were illegal to have. Those who have the runes currently and more than likely well aware of what they've done.
Sorry mate but what I said is true and even Azimuth (long time enemy) agreed with me. If your patience is running thin, well... relax more, but that doesn't mean players won't show their opinion in order for you to keep your patience or whatever. I won't say something nice if something nice isn't there to be said.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:16 am 

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Hey What is the Bug abuser are u talking about ?? Stats Bug ? wtf is thats lol and what it do ???


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:44 am 
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I love how everyone, or rather a few specific people, are always quick to claim staff are soooo unfair or are out to get them.
Get over yourselves.

I go out of my way to be fair and just, and i think almost everyone on here can agree they'd rather deal with me than jorus, broadband, or even cv when it comes to getting in trouble with the rules. I don't do stuff without reason, and i don't jail people who don't break the rules.

The particular runes that got jail time this time are either gained through complete bug abuse, or people have been warned not to have publicly in forum announcements in the past. So suck it up, move on, and lets try to not have them from here on out. If you have a special case i'm sure echo will listen and give you due consideration, so don't think we're just unfair judges on high.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:34 am 

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4days for 40skill caps .thats bullshit . its nothing when i was rezz killing ppl stafff was getting fun to jail me 1-2-3 week HAHAHAHA AND for 40 stats THEY got 4 DAYS? HAHAHA THats bulllshit . And for ilegal rune wow its hard to remove it . why perma jail some1 with an old f****** rune rofl . i dont understand why 4 days for 40 stats and undéfinie time for a stupid rune ??? cmon .... and obsidian was suposed to get every accnt unbannnned ? iv lost my pw for my accnt i pmed Bob and i got nothing atm my brother want play but he cant bc iv lost alll my e-mail and Pasword . and no one can help me i tryed to give him an another accnt but he suposly cant .. bc its suposed to be ilegal to give an inactive ACCNT to a old play he leave obs every bug abuse can come back and a fair one CANT ? i just want thats accnt back thats all and try to be more fair for fair player plz . bug suck dick :O 4 day its not alot for a no life HAHAHAHAH . so plz give more 4 day LOOL and try tog et my old accnt so my brother can use it plz .thx :( im inpatient its now like 2 weeek im waiting to get him his old accnt so . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .


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im guessing i may get flamed for this comment im about to make

i totally agree with Bob and Echo on this (yea fah q i aint suckin up) ive been waiting for the day when something like this would happen and players that cheat to get stuff they shouldnt have or stats they shouldnt have gotten is bullshit and been going on for a fair amount of time... so if your in jail and you have a good case to get out dont friggin worry... although i do wish the jail time for stat bug was a bit longer... since like bane i have gotten a week like jail time for something far less.... but w/e least people will maybe start playin by the rules

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:11 pm 
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I love how everyone, or rather a few specific people, are always quick to claim staff are soooo unfair or are out to get them.
Get over yourselves.

I go out of my way to be fair and just, and i think almost everyone on here can agree they'd rather deal with me than jorus, broadband, or even cv when it comes to getting in trouble with the rules. I don't do stuff without reason, and i don't jail people who don't break the rules.

The particular runes that got jail time this time are either gained through complete bug abuse, or people have been warned not to have publicly in forum announcements in the past. So suck it up, move on, and lets try to not have them from here on out. If you have a special case i'm sure echo will listen and give you due consideration, so don't think we're just unfair judges on high.
Why do you always mention jorus, broadband, and cv when saying there harsher than you are? I've yet to see any of them online in-game since I've been on this shard (except for broadband, whom I've seen 2 times (he's the owner btw))

Why keep them as staff? (cept for bb). Why not recruit new staff? (I know your gonna say "oh blah blah blah hard to train them blah blah blah don't have time to teach the how we want things blah blah")

Maybe if you hire someone to help you script, we could get out of our 1 year beta and actually begin to start playing again. You'll probably again say "it takes to long to teach someone how "I" want things to be done around here, so it'll be easier to do it myself." If you started to teach someone b4 you did the switch, I'm pretty sure we'd be a heck of alot closer to being finished then we are now.

Just my opinion.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:51 pm 
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I totally like this about time abusers started being punished harshly!

however i know from experience that sometimes people just dont know about bugs and such

also some people dont have forum accounts.....i didnt have one for at least a year until Subcity told me about the forums...

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Funny, considering Subcity never used them :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:20 pm 
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ya, i didnt have a forum account for, 2 years? or more after i started playing lol, so I can see where dedo is coming from.
even tho, now in obsidian to even start playing your going to have to stumble across the forums at one point lolz. so im not sure if thats a valid excuse

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:20 pm 

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I love how everyone, or rather a few specific people, are always quick to claim staff are soooo unfair or are out to get them.
Get over yourselves.

I go out of my way to be fair and just, and i think almost everyone on here can agree they'd rather deal with me than jorus, broadband, or even cv when it comes to getting in trouble with the rules. I don't do stuff without reason, and i don't jail people who don't break the rules.

The particular runes that got jail time this time are either gained through complete bug abuse, or people have been warned not to have publicly in forum announcements in the past. So suck it up, move on, and lets try to not have them from here on out. If you have a special case i'm sure echo will listen and give you due consideration, so don't think we're just unfair judges on high.
Why do you always mention jorus, broadband, and cv when saying there harsher than you are? I've yet to see any of them online in-game since I've been on this shard (except for broadband, whom I've seen 2 times (he's the owner btw))

Why keep them as staff? (cept for bb). Why not recruit new staff? (I know your gonna say "oh blah blah blah hard to train them blah blah blah don't have time to teach the how we want things blah blah")

Maybe if you hire someone to help you script, we could get out of our 1 year beta and actually begin to start playing again. You'll probably again say "it takes to long to teach someone how "I" want things to be done around here, so it'll be easier to do it myself." If you started to teach someone b4 you did the switch, I'm pretty sure we'd be a heck of alot closer to being finished then we are now.

Just my opinion.
Hit the nerve there... But it's nice to point out the truth from time to time. I can foresee some comments about Spawn and I having 'attitude' or 'just criticizing', but that's besides the point if it's the truth.

The truth is:

1) Bob claims to need to do things alone (no reason given except possible code theft?);
2) We must just thank him kindly for his efforts (which are many, I do admit);
3) Our many comments on the system are refuted with the everlasting argument "BB wants it that way" (does he?);
4) There seems to be a lot of perfumery and gadgets but real problems are still pertinent;

Do we have 'attitude' or a point?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:38 pm 
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Hit the nerve there... But it's nice to point out the truth from time to time. I can foresee some comments about Spawn and I having 'attitude' or 'just criticizing', but that's besides the point if it's the truth.

The truth is:

1) Bob claims to need to do things alone (no reason given except possible code theft?);
2) We must just thank him kindly for his efforts (which are many, I do admit);
3) Our many comments on the system are refuted with the everlasting argument "BB wants it that way" (does he?);
4) There seems to be a lot of perfumery and gadgets but real problems are still pertinent;

Do we have 'attitude' or a point?
Attitude is how you present, it regardless of the facts of your point, and you know that, which is why you used such a bad argument. :P

1. I'm the only one broadband has trusted with code access, and that was after years. Even blinkers never got direct access. So regardless of my personal feelings on the topic, we're not getting another coder. At least not for anything major. The staff who can script and have time have still be doing what little stuff they can.

2. Not required to thank me, just i'd prefer it to comments that don't help. :P
3. If ya doub tme go ask him yourself, some of the stuff he puts in i particularly dislike(as i said, i argued with him for an hour to get stockpiles on houses as high as they are)
4. I'm working as fast as i can on them. A lot of the gadgets are stuff i do to prevent burnout from working on big systems all the time.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:57 pm 

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Show me the attitude in the post presented... My argument is not a bad one since you just confirmed everything I said above.

Let's just sum this up for the kids (the argument which you have agreed to even though you made it sound like you were explaining something):

1) There are no other coders because of x reason;
2) If there are no other coders players can only rely on you;
3) If players argument is refuted for x reason, players argument is useless; (leading to a logical conclusion that the x factor should be addressed);
4) Perfumery and gadgets exist (to take the edge off), real problems are being worked on but cannot be rushed to the lack of coders which cannot be addressed due to the x factor;

Consistent enough?

People can deduce what the x factor is, but to find it out you gotto talk to Broadband.

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