Alright, so two big changes in the changelog today for those who don't read.
First off, dark elves are implemented. As stated earlier you will NOT be allowed/transfer via stone to create this race like normal, it is only in existence for old characters, and through an in-game quest. Dark elves are outcasts in obsidian for a reason, and their numbers will be very, very small proportionally to the other races.

Second, animal control limits are in place.
This means if you try to control more than your limit, you might have some go wild and attack you.
Everyone starts with 0.
30 magery or necromancy adds 1 to your limit (if you have both, you still only get 1)
taming adds 1 every 25 points, animal lore every 20 points.
Most you can currently have is 10 with gm lore, taming, and 30 magery/necromancy.

This applies only to a single spoken command. Meaning every pet that can hear it and is owned by you, counts when checking the limit. Your horse being ridden doesn't, but when not ridden it does. So if there are 5 sheep on screen, your limit is 5, you're safe. But if a 6th sheep owned by you wanders on screen and you order them to do something, you might lose some sheep.

More details/other changes in changelog

why not? i waited for it and i thought that we will have a race stone,,,,,,,, thats so boring

HaHa!!!! Awesome!

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what if tactics can controll unshrunk bears not summoned bears?
i think it will be neat for warriors
and what about our rides? if we got a ride we wont have an extra animal ?

Agree with Void , mages can use bears cuz they have magery, but warriors cant they must animal lorse that will take a space from your skills that sould be usefull if u train it at nother skill, uill just add useless skill like animal lore 2 warrior 2 make them able 2 summon bear, so what is your opinion ( BOB ) if u add tactic 2 skills that able u 2 use shrunked bear like that u will make a adjustesment between warrior and mages about summon that instead adding uselss skill 2 warrior skills list

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i got half way through gaffers post and quit lawl..

but why must we go through a quest?
and is this quest implemented?
and only for old players?

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what is the quest

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ya atleast tell us where to start?
lol....

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2 concerns...... 1. Is the dark elf going to be limited because they will be somewhat overpowered?
2. The same should apply to summons as unshrunk animals.

Summons count towards your total controllable pet limit, just as unshrunk and freshly tamed animals do.

No, the dark elves are limited because they are considered criminals of britannia, hated by all rates and outcast by Lord British himself after their attempt to conquer the world by the use of the shadow generator.

While it makes sense over time there will be more of them, there will alway sbe a very small number, until such a day when their race is either purged and destroyed for good, or somehow redeemed(fat chance, did you SEE how much we're still cleaning up shadow monsters? Talk about a permanent blight on the land).

Dark elves are subject ot the same balance as other races, and if they appear overpowered after extensive playtesting will get the nerf bat as much as any other race did

As for the quest, you're getting no starting points.
It's designed to be a multiple month long quest, hard and a pain in the ass. And everytime someone beats it, it resets. That's not to say someone can't beat it quicker than a few months, but on average from start to finish it'll take you that long figuring it out on your own your first time through.

Yes but if warriors should have to waste extra skill points to be able to control animals then show should mages. The magery skill alone should not be enough to control them.

take that to the animal control balance thread in the combat subforum of bugs/suggestions.
I really dont' want that conversation taking place in three different threads.

umm I thought shadows were created by one of those evil snake people....

thats why ssithss or w,e his name is (cv went around roll playing him) came around to start hunting shadows and umm i forgot what other monsters he said created them but it wasnt dark elves lol

but ya anyway,, i think obsi should have a huge corny back drop story LOL like alot of other games, just explaining why things happen for what... get like a forum mod to write it or something LOL!

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