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why have race abilities geared towards pvp?

answer-
I thought that was the point of becoming a race...
If race abilities were non-pvp related there would be no diversity. which is the point of the race system...


and ya i don't think the extra fire damage applies to ice elves yet... if they have. i didnt notice them...

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fire dmg destroys a ice elf .... you usually get the extra dmg accumulated say someone is hitting me with a fire wep the numbers that shows damage done to you would show up as 32(wep dmg) then quickly afterwards 11(bonus dmg) sometimes after several hits these bonus numbers can double up like 32, 11,11,.....so yea ice elfs aint the problem the entire pvp system is...

sometimes fire spells just have the extra damage added to it.

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Scathach of Skye - Pure Ranger

maybe necro spells don't count as fire spells.... because i don't remeber seeing any extra numbers lol

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na i dont think they count for necros.

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Scathach of Skye - Pure Ranger

All races except maybe for warlocks have some pvp aspects to it.

Vampires do have pvp oriented powers and most are complaining about them because there not as good asthey use to be. How would anyone know, they are full of secrets and require research. From the basic abilities, they are pretty good.
My vamp can now use his abilities about 2/3 of a day which is not bad seeing as how I havent done too much yet.

Ice elves are fine and Im happy there good. There should be no one race destined for pvp. All races should join. They currently have nice abilities like snow ball and wall, the summon is crappy though. and weak to fire.

Wood elves need some tweaking. There ability to regenerate around living creatures honestly is amazing. I remember fighting once as a wood elf next to a tamers house and my life was going up by like 25 every 5 seconds lmao. But there other powers need to be worked on. Turning into an animal is pretty useless apart if u wanna run away, but i would prefer if u could turn into something alone the lines of werewofl/ werebear and so on were you could actually gain some pvp advantage. Running through trees, meh tis ok.

Warlocks definately need a bit more pvp oriented powers.

All in all the races should equally be good for PVP. A race is not destined for pvp, the Classes are their for a reason.

crimson wrote:All races except maybe for warlocks have some pvp aspects to it.

Vampires do have pvp oriented powers and most are complaining about them because there not as good asthey use to be. How would anyone know, they are full of secrets and require research. From the basic abilities, they are pretty good.
My vamp can now use his abilities about 2/3 of a day which is not bad seeing as how I havent done too much yet.

Ice elves are fine and Im happy there good. There should be no one race destined for pvp. All races should join. They currently have nice abilities like snow ball and wall, the summon is crappy though. and weak to fire.

Wood elves need some tweaking. There ability to regenerate around living creatures honestly is amazing. I remember fighting once as a wood elf next to a tamers house and my life was going up by like 25 every 5 seconds lmao. But there other powers need to be worked on. Turning into an animal is pretty useless apart if u wanna run away, but i would prefer if u could turn into something alone the lines of werewofl/ werebear and so on were you could actually gain some pvp advantage. Running through trees, meh tis ok.

Warlocks definately need a bit more pvp oriented powers.

All in all the races should equally be good for PVP. A race is not destined for pvp, the Classes are their for a reason.

If Ice Elves are not totally geared toward PvP I am not sure what is for 1. And running away as an animal gives you absolutely no speed advantage whatsoever and running through trees is pretty much useless as it takes an entire day for it to form. Wood elves would be absolutely useless in PvP except for maybe using a mage/tamer build which i think is GAY.

classes have destroyed the system

i can't see why no one sees that but me..

either all races have to have classes.. or none..
its as simple as that

Originally, what I had said, although i am not totally against classes was this.

Races have powers and a 680 skill cap, but no limitations.

Humans have no powers but a skill cap of 780 and no limitations.

So basically you choose, between powers or extra skill.

belgarion wrote:

crimson wrote:All races except maybe for warlocks have some pvp aspects to it.

Vampires do have pvp oriented powers and most are complaining about them because there not as good asthey use to be. How would anyone know, they are full of secrets and require research. From the basic abilities, they are pretty good.
My vamp can now use his abilities about 2/3 of a day which is not bad seeing as how I havent done too much yet.

Ice elves are fine and Im happy there good. There should be no one race destined for pvp. All races should join. They currently have nice abilities like snow ball and wall, the summon is crappy though. and weak to fire.

Wood elves need some tweaking. There ability to regenerate around living creatures honestly is amazing. I remember fighting once as a wood elf next to a tamers house and my life was going up by like 25 every 5 seconds lmao. But there other powers need to be worked on. Turning into an animal is pretty useless apart if u wanna run away, but i would prefer if u could turn into something alone the lines of werewofl/ werebear and so on were you could actually gain some pvp advantage. Running through trees, meh tis ok.

Warlocks definately need a bit more pvp oriented powers.

All in all the races should equally be good for PVP. A race is not destined for pvp, the Classes are their for a reason.

If Ice Elves are not totally geared toward PvP I am not sure what is for 1. And running away as an animal gives you absolutely no speed advantage whatsoever and running through trees is pretty much useless as it takes an entire day for it to form. Wood elves would be absolutely useless in PvP except for maybe using a mage/tamer build which i think is GAY.

you are very correct here belg....I think all races should have powers worth submitting to the limitations of this class system. Currently warlocks and wood elfs powers are shit.

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so generally,
everyone thinks warlocks and wood elf powers are sucky?

i like the turn to animal thing on a wood elf
that tree thing is useless unless you have a shard with ALOT of people on it...

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chips LL wrote:so generally,
everyone thinks warlocks and wood elf powers are sucky?

i like the turn to animal thing on a wood elf
that tree thing is useless unless you have a shard with ALOT of people on it...

yup would be cool if you can summon a reaper..it is a tree i think..o the animal thing is a very cool ability just not useful in pvp.

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chips LL wrote:so generally,
everyone thinks warlocks and wood elf powers are sucky?

i like the turn to animal thing on a wood elf
that tree thing is useless unless you have a shard with ALOT of people on it...

The animal thing would only really work if you gave your wood elf like 180 str, trained wrestling and always binded a grizzly or something like that. Even then if you are going to be a wrestling creature, why not just polly into a demon. The only advantage really is that it looks kind of cool to run around looking like a wolf or something which we have polly for anyway.

As far as the tree binding thing it would not even be good with a shard with alot of players because the chances of your tree getting chopped are even higher then.

wood elf's natural healing in nature is powerful as hell.. i had my brother get on his tamer as i casted deadly poison on him with my necro (halu)
his tamer had less than 50 str and out healed my deadly poison dmg with its natural passive ability.. id say thats a pretty damn strong ability... its just not being used correctly.. in the right scenario.. its very powerful
as far as the other abilities.. i don't see much use in them..

adam_c wrote:wood elf's natural healing in nature is powerful as hell.. i had my brother get on his tamer as i casted deadly poison on him with my necro (halu)
his tamer had less than 50 str and out healed my deadly poison dmg with its natural passive ability.. id say thats a pretty damn strong ability... its just not being used correctly.. in the right scenario.. its very powerful
as far as the other abilities.. i don't see much use in them..

That is exactly the problem tho, every skill on a woodelf that is worth anything depends on too many things. That would be the same as saying that the ice wall and snowball thing on the ice elf only works on ice isle. And you can only use home sweet home if you start it a full day in advance, and you can only be in one certain area. and only if someone doesn't do something to screw it up like when they chop your tree.

lmao....

there should be a way to make homesweet home fail....

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